BBC4 Interview with Scott Atran

Global news and analysis presented by Mark Mardell, on The World This Weekend.  Listen at the 21 minute mark to hear his fascinating interview about ISIS as a revolution with Scott Atran, a research fellow who has interviewed many terrorist sympathizers who believes we are underestimating the strength of this movement – we have “miles and miles of grief to go.” (News segment right before was about anniversary of Charlie Hedbo attack.)